Post SPOILERS 4ª temporada

Ire esa seguro seguro que es para el 4X13 OMG

Pensé q solo a mí me iba mal la pg

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Yo tb me despido para q podais comentar "tranquilamente" el capi

ahora si con la pagina cuadrada ! jii me despido de mi segunda casa , osea este post !!!

un besote chicas !!!! muuaaaaakkkkk

Hasta mañana chicas y gracias x la niña Delena..no sabía cuanto la echaba de menos hasta q la he visto ...... Y chicas valientes q son capaces de irse a la cama sin ver nuestro capi después de 2 largas semanas!! Les mando besitos hasta mañana..we miss you!!!!!

Hasta mañana a todas, mañana + y esperemos que sea por lo menos como las expectativas que nos hemos creado.

Buenas noches a todas las que os vais

Os esperamos mañana para comentarlo!!



PD. Sí, se me va...

Si...se te va...ja, ja,ja

Bueno yo mejor escribo aqui por si digo algo que no debo y meto la pata en otro post...

Caroline me tiene HARTAAA!!!!! y lo del vinculo es una mierda!!!!!

Tremendo polvazo!!!! y creo que el del proximo capitulo sera aun mejor!!!!!!!!

Lo del vinculo ya es un hecho asi que aguantarnoslo hasta que sepan como romperlo y Elena se de cuenta que eso no cambia lo que siente por Damon....

Aunque cometiron errores.... porque cuando Damon le dice a Elena en el Grill que escoja su comida..fusion asiatica, latina o americana ella no escogio... y debio haberlo hecho si Damon se lo estaba dieciendo... pero en fin... metieron lo del vinculo de todas maneras asi que a esperar que lo rompan...

Wechi, lo del vinculo no se sostiene por ninguna parte...es puro tramite para poner las cosas mas dificiles, para que las Stelenas no le quemen la casa a la Plec...y mantener las dudas. Pero vamos, que antes de ser vampira a Elena ya se le caian las bragas por Damon....Asi que en ese tema sufriremos un poco mientras no lo resuelvan, pero esta clarisimo que los sentimientos de Elena son realiiiisimos.

no suelo comentar pero si os leo(siempre :) pero me muero de ganas de decir dos cosas.la primera q me parece exagerado vuestro ataque a caroline,yo tambien soy delena 100% pero eso no significa q la chica no pueda dar su opinion............y lo mas importante:estoy un poco de bajon por la cagada q nos han acho hoy,para mi se han cargado la escena mas esperada e importante de la serie,y....soy yo la unica q piensa q ese polvo no a culminado??? por algo en el avance todavia continuan.q pensais??? o esk ya melo imgino solo de las ganas de q esa no haya sido the first sex delena

Esto del vinculo es un trámite. Si se ven las fotos de los siguientes capitulos Stefan parece que no se acerca a Elena. Asi que seguira la historia con Damon para ver si es verdad el vinculo o no, osea que Caroline lo intentara romper y si es así se demostrará que estar enamorado no es un vinculo,
La historia tiene que estar un poco controlada porque si la audiencia se vendria abajo...o arriba porque creo que Delenas somos la mayoría. Pero por si acaso nos quieren picar para que sigamos ahí.
A mi lo que verdaderamente me ha descuadrado es como han roto la escena mas bonita de estos años...Eso si ha sido tener mala leche... más vale que haya más así! yo necesito momentos delenas con musica bonita y sin cortes!!!!
Pero habrá que tener paciencia....y nunca confiarnos porque no es la primera ni la ultima vez que nos jugara la plec

Entrevista de Carina a la Plec sobre el 4x07:

Fuente

Okay, "Vampire Diaries" fans, we know you've had an emotional evening. Regardless of who you're rooting for when it comes to the love triangle, tonight's Miss Mystic Falls pageant was packed with unexpected twists and turns. Elena didn't hesitate to tell Damon that she and Stefan had broken up because of her feelings for the elder Salvatore brother, and while Damon sympathized with Stefan's heartbreak, he wasn't particularly sorry about the whole thing.

That became abundantly clear when Elena decided to crash at Chez Salvatore to get away from her vampire hunter brother. After a little whiskey and a romantic fireside dance, Delena fans finally got their wish when Damon and Elena couldn't resist any longer, and finally slept together. Of course, it was a bittersweet moment, because on the other side of their tiny town, Caroline and Stefan realized that Elena is sired to Damon. It's a rare condition for vampires, as Damon pointed out in Season 3, but does happen.

For the record, we haven't seen any evidence from any of Klaus' sired hybrids that being sired causes one to have romantic or sexual feelings toward someone, which is worth remembering as the story moves forward.

The sire bond does explain a lot of the curious things about Elena's vampire transition -- most notably the fact that she can't stomach blood unless it comes directly from a human vein. No other vampire we've seen so far has been such a picky eater, and personally, I'm glad that finally makes sense! There are still a lot of unanswered questions, though, so I tracked down executive producer Julie Plec for an exclusive interview to follow up the controversial episode. If there's one thing you should take from this, it's that there's still plenty of hope that Elena's feelings for Damon are real -- so don't

Zap2it: The sire bond has been highly speculated about over the last couple of weeks. How long has this been in the works? Did you guys know, when Elena turned, that you'd go this route?
Plec: We came up with it back when we launched Tyler's hybrid story, actually. When Tyler was sired to Klaus, and Damon said, "Oh, s***, I know what this is," that planted the seed of, when we finally go down this road with Elena, whoever's blood she drank to become a vampire sired her to that vampire. From there it was a natural conclusion that it should be Damon, so it's actually something that's been in the works for a very long time. The reason we kept the hybrid storyline alive this year and kept it sort of front and center was in order to create that context for the audience so that when we found out Elena was sired, it would all make sense.

It's definitely alarming for fans who have been waiting to see Damon and Elena get together for them to finally hook up, but have it be intercut with evidence that her feelings for him might not be genuine. Is there still hope that her feelings for him are real?
Without taking sides one way or the other, just looking at it objectively from our point of view as storytellers, there is more hope than ever for them. It's just combined with a lot of very deep questions. Damon is a character who, his whole life -- as a vampire and as a human -- was looking for love and acceptance, and for someone to finally say, "Hey, you're good enough." He finally gets that from Elena, and now he has to question it. He wants to believe it's real. She truly believes it's real. But there's that nagging doubt, as to how much of it is true love and how much is the effects of a sire bond. It's a question that's going to take these two people who do care about each other so deeply, and just put the tiniest bit of an obstacle in their path. They have to figure out how to get around it.

I've been sort of sad to see people on Twitter calling Elena derogatory names because they feel like she moved too fast, sleeping with Damon right after the breakup with Stefan. Did you guys have any concern in the writers' room that she was jumping into his arms, and his bed, too quickly?
Plec: What we wanted to do in the writers' room was to give Stefan and Elena the most human, honest, and respectable breakup between a couple that had been that important for so long, and to put a real end to that, so that there was a freedom for her to now give in to this passion and this interest that's been brewing for over two and a half seasons. In the real world, would it happen that quickly? Maybe not. But I do think that the punctuation on the breakup is her finally giving in to these feelings for Damon, and then to raise the question of "Oh, God. Is that what she really felt or is it all part of the supernatural link between them?"

I loved Stefan in this episode. He's really on the edge -- particularly in the scenes with Jeremy, when he was really kind of scary. Does his heartbreak over Elena have the potential to push him back into his ripper ways?
Plec: Oh, he's definitely walking the tightrope on the edge there, and will continue to do so. He's trying to be reasonable, he's trying to be rational, but he's very clearly emotionally driven by a desire to, as she called him out on, "fix her." To Stefan's credit, he might be right. He might actually be right, that this is not who she is and this is not who she's supposed to be, so his desire is to try to correct that at all costs. So the question which we'll be exploring is: is this who she is? We don't know.

Hoy he visto el capítulo 4 x 7 y no me ha gustado NADA NADA como intercalaban escenas Damon-Elena con Carol-Stefan y su estúpida conversación, ¿po qué no me dejan disfrutar sin cortes todo Damon-Elena y después ya me meten el hachazo con Carol-Stefan, por qué??

A mí me han chafado el capítulo que estaba siendo genial, no por el tema del vínculo, que ya lo veíamos venir, y va a ser una trola monumental, sino por el corte de las escenas, que yo lo quería seguido joder, despacito y h buena letra!!!




Que le den a la plec !!!!!!!!!!!! cómo se le ocurre hacer eso?????




Edito: muy profunda la carol:

porque elena es elena
yo soy yo
tú eres tú
damon es damon


y seguimos si quiere:

el día es el día
la cocacola es la cocacola
la sangre es la sangre

... con esto agotó su media neurona OMG, mira que no la veía yo tan filosófica.


(no sé xq sale todo junto a modo de ladrillo y luego el pedazo de espacio al final vacio, no me lo explico, este foro chifla)

(El resto de la entrevista)

Before the breakup, Damon and Stefan were in the best place they've been, as brothers, in a long time. Is that in jeopardy now?
Plec: Well, it's been compromised by circumstance, but both of them, to their credit in the next episode, try to take the high road. What comes out of them both trying to take the high road, and to do what's right by each other, and do right by Elena, actually launches the whole next chapter of the show.

This week, Stefan found a murderer to turn into a vampire and kill, but in last week's episode, Jeremy's victim was a hybrid friend of Tyler's who had just helped them. There's sort of this disregard for other lives, outside of their immediate circle. Is that something that's going to be addressed down the line? Obviously, it caused some tension between Tyler and Caroline.
What that served to do was to basically let Tyler be the voice of conscience, and the voice of reason. He's saying, "Hey, you guys are all doing something in the name of what you percieve to be good, and I don't approve, and it's not okay, and it's not cool." It's a little bit of that Jiminy Cricket reminder that our heroes are doing things to protect what they love, but there's a big shady gray area there. On our show, there's a very fine line separating hero from villain. We want it to be clear that just because Stefan and Damon think something's right, doesn't mean it is.

Next week Stefan tells Damon about the sire bond suspicions, and head to New Orleans for some answers, and we get a look back at where they were in the 1940s. What are you most looking forward to people seeing?
It's a nice window into Damon and who he was then, and who he wanted to be, especially in relationship to his brother, and how he wanted to do right by his brother back then. It kind of informs his decision about how to do right by his brother today. We revisit our favorite girl Lexi, who has been working hard since the ripper days to get Stefan back on track. She brings him to Damon to say, "Okay, the next step in your recovery is to reconcile with your brother." It's a nice moment of insight into where they were at the time.

gracias por la entrevista, venia a ponerla. La he leido y no sé pero me da que nos van dejar la sombra de la duda.... ¿lo soñé o damon y elena decian que en el capitulo 9 estarian más unidos?)

Bueno,la entrevista nos deja más de un atisbo de esperanza a las Delenas......

buenos dias queridos mios
sigo en una nube total de la vida

Dejo un spoiler que ha sido confirmado por las declaraciones de la plec... al menos algo es algo..espero que esto sea a via de escape.



SPOILER -

Guys it's been confirmed by Julie Plec and e!Online that Elena is sired to Damon, & they've had it planned since early on in season 3. But it's also been confirmed that despite the sire bond, Damon and Elena are closer than they've ever been, and also that sire bonds do NOT impact emotions/love/sex.

Also, Damon doesn't know Elena is sired at this point. When Stefan says "she was sired to you, & you took advantage" he's talking about Charlotte (who was also sired to Damon), not Elena.

Basicamente nos vienen a decir que vale, que esta vinculada, pero que los sentimientos no van unidos a eso, es decir, yo lo entiendo como que puede haber algun tipo de vínculo en el sentido de tomar decisiones en determinadas situaciones, pero desde luego el estar vinculado no te hace 'amar' a una persona, sino estariamos hablando de que todos los hibridos de klaus le amarían...

YUPI!!!!!!!!!!!
RESUMEN:
Elena está vinculada/engendrada por Damon, eso significa que no desobedece sus órdenes, PERO y esto es lo más importante este VINCULO no tiene impacto en los sentimientos, ni en las emociones, ni en el tener sexo, es decir si damon le dice "Quiereme" cosa que no ha dicho en ningun momento, Elena no le obedecería, ni hacer el amor ni nada asi no está completamente a sus órdenes, no puede no estar de acuerdo con él pero ella es dueña de sus sentimientos y de sus decisiones de acotarse con él, aparte que damon no ha dicho nada de nada, ha sido todo ella. YUHUUUU! AL FIN! salvados jajajaja estoy super contenta, gracias Plec....lo pone bien claro, este vinculo puede tener impacto sobre órdenes tipo "mata a conor" o "el vestido rojo es mas bonito verdad Elena" pero no tiene poder sobre los sentimientos! y Elena tratará de demostrarselo a Damon! Estos capitulos que nos esperan son lo que hemos estado pidiendo a gritos gente, Elena persiguiendo a Damon y haciendole ver que por mucho engendramiento que halla sus sentimientos son puros, y no me quiero ni imaginar las cosas tan bonitas que le dirá para que Damon la crea jeje aiss y en el 4x09 más felices que nunca, ayudando a jeremy, estoy segurisima!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Esque vamos, segund la conversacion Caroline/Stefan, Damon le dice cosas a elena y elena cambia de opinion o las hace: mata, se relaja, cambia de opinion sobre colores, pero ya veras que carita se les queda cuando Elena les cuente a sus amigas lo del sexo y cuando Caroline le insinue que estaba siendo obligada y Elena la corte en plan: EL NO HA DICHO NI MU! nada de nada! jaja osea, no era una orden! yupi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Esto me va a gustar, lo sé! jajaja

Eso pone en la entrevista Vampi,que el vínculo no afecta a los sentimientos?????

Pues repito lo que tu dices.....YUPIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!

Buenos días!!

Vaya eso mismo pensaba yo mientras jodían la escena tan esperada con intercalaciones de la rubita y el rubito sin mencionar....la música que ponen...Caroline hace menciones sólo de que lo que dice Damon lo hace Elena x el vinculo...en ningún momento recuerdo yo que Damon la haya dicho oye....quiéreme, pero que mira que te digo que tu quiéreme...( jejeje)...y claro se enredará todo xq Stefan le dirá a Damon que se esta aprovechando de Elena ya que ésta, esta enamorada de él debido al vínculo...( no quiere ver la realidad y se aferra hasta a un clavo ardiendo) entonces el pobre de Damon se sentirá como sucio, masacrado, porque la primera vez que ha podido estar con la mujer de su vida pues...ha sido de este modo...por lo que se alejarán y espero que cuando Elena conozca el motivo por el que Damon se aleja de ella...les diga a todos...iros un poquito a la mier...y que demuestre que el vínculo no afecta a sus sentimientos para nada con un buen morreo delante de todos jejeje.